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2005-11-27 16:31: Tyrrany is already here

From the New York Times:

The judge, Joyce Hens Green of the Federal District Court in Washington, asked a series of hypothetical questions about who might be detained as an enemy combatant under the government's definition.

What about "a little old lady in Switzerland who writes checks to what she thinks is a charitable organization that helps orphans in Afghanistan but really is a front to finance Al Qaeda activities?" she asked.

And what about a resident of Dublin "who teaches English to the son of a person the C.I.A. knows to be a member of Al Qaeda?"

And "what about a Wall Street Journal reporter, working in Afghanistan, who knows the exact location of Osama bin Laden but does not reveal it to the United States government in order to protect her source?"

Mr. Boyle said the military had the power to detain all three people as enemy combatants.

This is a US Justice Department representative stating, in a court of law, the US Government's position. Note that two out of the three examples are outside US territory. "Enemy combatants," of course, have virtually no rights. They can be held indefinitely and tortured. It won't be long before they are just disappeared.

From Wikipedia's article on habeus corpus:

The PATRIOT Act of 2001 gives the President of the United States the power to declare anyone suspected of connection to terrorists or terrorism, as an Enemy combatant. As an Enemy combatant that person can be held without charges being filed against him/her. Enemy combatants can be held indefinitely without charges or a court hearing and are not even entitled to legal counsel.

I was pretty upset when Derek Bond was arrested and held without trial for three weeks by the FBI in South Africa. Nobody in the media seemed to be asking how it was that the US had the power to do this. Everyone just seemed to accept as natural that the FBI can arrest anyone anywhere. What's more the US supreme court ruled that people mistreated by the US outside US territory aren't entitled to any compensation at all. So the FBI has power without responsibility.

By declaring a "war" on terrorism the US has an excuse to gradually put the whole planet under martial law.

Why isn't everyone marching in the streets to demand their freedom back? How bad will it have to get? Why isn't the media screaming about this?



Current Mood: incensed

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:2005-11-28 02:17 (UTC)

Situation not so good in the UK either

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Richard,

You may be interested in this presentation by Clive Stafford Smith: http://www.ggsl.strath.ac.uk/staffordsmith/lecture.htm

Confessions obtained through torture are not worth the paper they're written on.

The 14 days in the UK are not too good either, see for example:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1637162,00.html
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/comment/0,15935,1637178,00.html

And of course under Section 44 anyone can (and sometimes is) be arrested.

I've started maintaining a list at http://gizmonaut.net/bits/police_state.html

It would be interesting to see a post on civil liberties in Japan.

br -d
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From:nickbarnes
Date:2005-11-28 13:23 (UTC)
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All three of the examples are outside US territory. Two of the three are completely unaware that they are doing anything even remotely connected with the GWoT. The only possible purpose of disappearing them is to spread fear.

And there's nothing gradual about this. The extraordinary renditions, Guantanamo Bay, the secret prisons, all that, was set up very quickly after 9/11. Some of it was already in place, of course. But suddenly the US administration is publically asserting the right (rather, and more accurately, 'the power') to kidnap anyone in the world, to imprison, torture, and kill them, with no recourse to any legal system. They are saying "we are now in charge, we answer to nobody, there are no rules, get used to it."

This is much worse than martial law. This is no law.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:2006-09-06 14:15 (UTC)

The war on "terror"

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no one is marching in the streets because, sadly, they're all watching East Enders
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